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Season 08 Episodes 05-07 Liveblogs

CTRL+F "TDLR" if you are in a hurry. Bolded are my Queencest/Thea thoughts.

Season 8, episode 5, “Prochnost”

  • Because I'm fast forwarding through every scene that contains the boring kids storyline, I'm starting this episode with a Laurel and Layla scene. Why do I keep forgetting that Lila is working with the Monitor? And I'm still totally loving Katie’s hair.

  • Why does Roy look so different? It's only been like 2 years since I left saw him in something and he looks way different, not bad different mind you, just I don't know, different.


  • So… Oliver wasn't good on heroes like he told Thea after all because if he was he wouldn't then send John to fetch Roy. This is such a wasted chance of the storyline for a great character (Thea.) What harm would it have done the show, having given re-occurring status back to Willa anyway, to actually have her appear onscreen and help all of them with this crisis?!!! As a Willa/Thea fan, I am terribly disappointed in this show and is decision, not that that matters to anybody, mind you but it feels good to say it.


  • To Roy’s point: clearly bloodlust can be managed, dummy. I mean, Thea seemed to be handling it pretty well now.

  • One minute Mia is bitchy to Oliver, then when she wants something (like learning how to break her own thumbs) she's all sweet and cheery… sounds like someone else we know doesn't it? Like mother like daughter… grr argh!

  • Poor Oliver looks so tired and worn down, when this is all over he should take a nice long nap.

  • “That is the thing about teaching, it's not about what you want to say, it's about what they need to hear.” I love this quote.

  • I'm genuinely surprised that Oliver didn't reply, “I don't want them to be heroes. I want them to be happy,” or something like that.


  • “When I first met Oliver, he gave me all of you,” Roy's acting like Thea had nothing to do with that. Like, yeah, okay, technically he did, I guess, but who introduced to Oliver, idiot? Thea Dearden Queen! Without her to connect Oliver and Roy, Roy wouldn’t know any of these people. I'm all for them Oliver & Roy and I’m even on board with Roy & Thea being friends, but to write her out of history like that? It's so disrespectful to their past that it’s no fucking wonder Roy/Thea didn't work out.


  • And it’s over. Onto the next, I guess?


Season 8, episode 6, “Reset”

  • Something’s not right here, obviously. Also, that woman laughing right outside the elevator is being way too obvious about it. Either she has something to do with this or that actress needs a better acting couch.

  • Detective Lance! I’m oddly thrilled to see him, despite never really liking his character before.

  • Is this a Groundhog Day episode?

  • Holy shit, someone said something about Groundhog Day in the episode! Do I have superpowers?

  • I think Quentin calling Laurel “baby girl” was creepy as hell, but I don't know why.

  • I love Laurel’s top (the one with the black lace) so much.

  • “I pull off the short hair way better than you,” LOL Laurel. I’ll say, while I prefer Earth1!Laurel, Earth2!Laurel’s sharp wit is fun. I wish we could have had Earth1!Laurel with 2’s wit.

  • Katie's acting in the scene where she tells Quentin that he's dead was fantastic. It was so real to watch.

  • Am I the only one who gets Black Lighting vibes from Laurel’s uniform/costume?

  • In the same vein as the “baby girl” nickname, Laurel calling her father, “Quentin” is super weird.

  • The scene where Oliver said goodbye to Quentin was so sweet. Seeing Oliver upset made my heart hurt though.

  • Okay. what the hell is with this furniture in Oliver’s (and Thea’s) apartment? That shit is so 80s, it's terrible. I assume Felicity has something to do with the hideousness.

  • “I hope so.” Aw, Oliver so sweet.

  • “I can't change my fate, can I?” Yes, Oliver, you can! Layla's not to be trusted and neither does it this God-like guy.


  • I know Layla said, “to complete your final mission. I'll see you there,” but what I heard was, “to complete your final mission. With Thea there.”


  • Of course it's goddamned Lian Yu… isn't it always?


Season 8, episode 7, “Purgatory”

  • Two people named Dinah is confusing as hell.


  • “No offense, but shouldn't this Kodak moment be between you and someone else?” Yes, Thea!!!


  • Edward Fyers again? Dude needs to just stay dead. Of course, there’s ghosts. Why wouldn’t there be fucking ghosts?

  • Roy’s gonna lose his arm just like in the comic books. Poor Roy. I genuinely feel bad for him.


  • “Suit up!” I wish Thea were there to ‘suit up’ too. Grr argh!


  • “No more island vacations.” LOL that was actually funny Roy. Good job!

  • “Tell her [Felicity] that I don’t want Mia & William separated.” I honestly don't think Felicity made that decision because it's what YOU wanted, Oliver. She probably made that decision because she was too damned selfish to raise another woman's child.

  • “Every mission has an end.” No, *sad eyes* Just no.

  • Boo freaking who. Fucking Mia. Like I seriously can’t stand her irritating, whiny self.

  • Layla’s new get up makes her look like she just stepped out of Star Trek… I LOVE IT!


  • TLDR: Yes, I’m bitter about Thea’s being neglected by the writers & no, I will not shut up about it.

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"Leap of Faith" Liveblog


  • THEA!

  • “Ollie?” “Hi, Speedy.”

  • “Well, I’m guessing Mia is for mom and not my Corto Maltese alias?”

  • “You destroyed the pits? Why didn’t you come home?” Aww, he wanted her to come home.

  • I love they’re talking about Roy and almost immediately Thea goes to, “I missed you.” Can we just talk for a minute about the looks these two were sharing? So sweet and there is such love. Seriously, these two are the best part of show. I ship them so HARD. “I missed you too.”

  • “I’m pretty sure I’m not the reason you came here.” Notice she said ‘pretty sure,’ which means she knows there’s a possibility that she is in fact the reason he came there.

  • “…Sounds like somebody else I know.” LOL Thea slay girl slay! Also, accurate. Their dynamic is so awesome. Why can’t we just have a show with the two of them? GAH!

  • “Okay. What are you not telling me?” Love how Thea sees right through him.

  • Thea’s lack of reaction to the news of his death surprised Oliver, but she’s right. He’s cheated death so often at this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was immortal.

  • “We’ve kind of killed off every league member, haven’t we?”

  • Before I could skip the kids scene, I heard William call Felicity ‘Mom,’ epic gag! Also, this episode was directed by Katie so that’s awesome.

  • Oliver and Thea fighting together so seamlessly as a team. *hearteyes*

  • “especially you. Word of your exploits has traveled far.” Yay! Thea is making a name for herself! You go girl!

  • “…one woman war...” Thea’s such a strong character, it’s a shame they never used her character to her potential.

  • Oliver stepping in before the women could get in an argument, but did anyone else notice how he looked over at Thea (as if to check on her) before getting to his point?

  • I love that Thea’s the one who pointed out that it’s weird the eaves left exactly what they needed right by the door, so wise.

  • “Speedy, you just read Arabic.” “You speak Russian.” This exchange just tickles me.

  • “Why can’t everything just be easy?” Same, Thea, same.

  • The fight scenes are always a bit chaotic for me, but I know I saw Thea be in danger for half a second and Oliver jumped in to defend her. It’s so great.

  • Thea whispering to Ollie. It’s so sibling-y.

  • And once again, Oliver trying to protect Thea by keeping her away from the action. I mean, it’s obviously not to work because this is Thea we’re talking about, but it’s such an Oliver thing to do.

  • “…I will give you two a moment.”

  • “Ollie, I thought we were way past this overprotective brother thing.” Yeah, he never gonna be over the overprotective brother thing; it’s kind of in the big brother job description and it’s kind of sweet. I get why it frustrates her, of course, but it just shows how much he loves her and how much he needs her to be safe.

  • “If Athena is trying to restart the League of Assassins, that makes you her chief rival.” Yeah because Thea is an epic badass.

  • “I don't care.” “I care, Thea.” Yeah, he does.

  • “You realize your sister is involved in this whether you want her to be or not?” He does, but that doesn’t mean he can’t still try and keep her safe.

  • “She's carried enough of Malcolm's burdens.” Truth.

  • Oliver waking up to see Thea perched above him was great. Plus, her snark is on point as always.

  • “If you can do it, I can do it.” Yes indeed she can.

  • Now they are free climbing up a mountain together. They are so perfect together! You’d never see Felicity doing that, she might break a nail.

  • And oh looking they are back to talking about the Barbie wannabe, great.

  • “[…] world that you weren't in, by the way, because I wasn't around to protect you.” Well, at least he got back around to wanting to protect her.

  • Thea’s speech about their parents was well written and poignant.

  • “When you'd stop being my baby sister?” “No. I never did. I just grew up a little bit.” SQUEE

  • Oliver pulling Thea out of danger. I adore it.

  • Thea vs. Talia…

  • “Your brother trained you well.”

  • Thea being HBIC was amazing to watch!

  • “The sword was destined to be yours, daughter of Merlyn.” Thea is my girl for all of times.

  • Thea being wise and awesome.

  • The goodbye is coming and I’m dreading it guys, not gonna lie.

  • “I'm sorry you didn't get the answers you were looking for.” “Got to see you.” D’aww!

  • “If you're gonna take on a God, Ollie, you're gonna need all the help you can get. Pretty good on help actually. […] Seems to me you have your hands full rebuilding the League of Assassins into a League of Heroes.” I can’t tell if this means Thea will reappear in later episodes or not, but God do I hope so. I can't believe Oliver turned down Thea's offer of help.

  • I’m going to make a whole separate post about the ‘see you later’ goodbye so, be on the lookout for that.

  • Felicity gave the Hozen to William? I don’t mind William having it, but it wasn’t hers to give, damn it! Grr.

  • “I'm gonna miss you. Every day, I miss you.”

  • If Thea doesn't reappear in Season 8, then “I'm gonna miss you. Every day, I miss you.” was also Willa's on screen goodbye to Stephen.

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"Welcome to Hong Kong” Liveblog

CTRL+F "TDLR" if you are in a hurry. Bolded are my Queencest/Thea thoughts.

  • Okay they’re starting with the boring kids crap in the recap that I just don’t give a shit about.

  • Two seconds in and I already have a complaint. What is this bullshit, huh? Oliver has a flashback to all the people important in his life... AND THEA'S NOWHERE TO BE SEEN!

  • The way he struggles to say Moira & Tommy’s names is so sweet. Heartbreaking, but sweet.

  • Also, I know I haven’t watched in seasons so, this one is on me, but who is this weird, God-like being giving Oliver orders and talking about the multi-verse? Like, why is Oliver taking his word without question? Because he seems kinda evil to me.

  • Is it me or are they filming the fight scenes differently now then they used to?

  • That little speech Black Canary gave about it being her Earth and her people was pretty good. She's right too. To him, they're just copies the people he loves, but to her they are her people and Oliver and Diggle are the copies.

  • I’m skipping the boring kids scenes because UGH!

  • The look between Oliver & Diggle in the Chinese store was awesomely fun.

  • Oh so Oliver wasn’t supposed to intercede on the undertaking? I kind of thought he was… I mean it’s just something so Oliver… If this intergalactic being was anywhere near omnipotent he would know that… I’m telling you guys, something is up with this guy.

  • And we start off this new scene with a clearly CGI shot of Hong Kong …either that or my vision’s blurry as hell.

  • Lyla & Laurel… this will be interesting.

  • Ew, Olicity montage. Fuck you, writers. Seriously? Can we not get one episode without that crapfest?

  • I do feel bad for Earth 02 Laurel, can’t deny that, won’t deny it.

  • Oliver's answer to Tatsu was really written and portrayed. Bravo.

  • This fight scenes feel very Mortal Combat-y to me.

  • Ridiculously cheesy level of accuracy to the Canary cry. I mean, seriously? Two women were fighting that closely and she can knock one of them off the boat thing and spare the other, really?

  • Lyla is working for this Monitor too? WTF?

TLDR: No sight of Thea until the preview for the next episode.

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“Starling City” Liveblog

Yes, folks, I'm watching Season Eight despite not keeping up with this show (yet) but anyway, CTRL+F "TDLR" if you are in a hurry. Bolded are my Queencest/Thea thoughts.


  • Recap: epic gag. Olicity with a baby? Forget that bullshit. No, just no.

  • And apparently they're still using that scene from the pilot to start the show? Eight years later? Okay. Okay, though not the exact same scene, but the same scenario, …it’s a multi-verse thing isn’t it? At least the whole multi-verse thing means that somewhere out there is a universe where Oliver and Thea are together and WE are right.

  • Okay, wait, I'm confused already. He looks different, but other than that, this looks like the Pilot. And, by the way, the mansion looks totally different on the inside. In case they (TV show creator people) thought they got one over on me? They didn’t.

  • Also, THE PILOT! Does that mean we're going to get the reunion again? *happy squee*

  • Malcolm, oh no… I’m so terrified right now.

  • AND WHY IS TOMMY STEALING THEA'S ENTRANCE AND LINES! WHAT THE-UGH! I SWEAR! Look at Oliver’s face though, the tears in his eyes such a precious cinnamon roll.

  • “Where’s Thea?” I love that looked around for her with his eyes like he just knew she was somewhere, like no matter the universe he knows his sister is constant.

  • WHERE THE FUCK IS THEA? SERIOUSLY, EVERYONE'S REACTION TO HIS QUESTION, OH I'M SHAKING.

  • “Yeah, but I’d like to see Thea.” // “What wasn’t his fault?” Look at Oliver’s face… I’m heartbroken.

  • Malcolm and Tommy are taking all of Thea’s interactions and I can’t.

  • Eww, Olicity. I- why am I watching this? I’m shattered. Nothing about this episode so far makes me happy.

  • “Mom, when we were growing up, if you had to leave me and T-Thea […]” The little stutter over her name is a nice subtle touch there.

  • Stephen’s acting in this episode is on point.

  • And now a scene filled with people I don't recognize or know… this is what I get for skipping several seasons.

  • “ Oh, the Internet…” Yeah, Oliver is still an awkward potato.

  • Eww, Oliver attempting to flirt with ‘Felicity.’

  • Totally saw Tommy as the Dark Archer coming.

  • That’s not Detective Lance… also, Malcolm a good guy? This IS a parallel universe.

  • Haha, Oliver was so happy to see Diggle, but he puts a fake fight. So adorable.

  • The look Tommy gave Oliver an evil look and I’m confused.

  • Oliver trying to protect the people he loves…sounds about right.

  • Tommy’s evil? It’s like the writers are trying to cause me the most pain. Assholes.

  • “So, I’ve been thinking it over and you really were on Lian Yu because if you had been here you would’ve been protecting our sister.”

  • “Because you want to destroy the Glades and get vengeance for Thea,” and probably his mother, Rebecca, too if I had to guess.

  • Tommy once again stealing Thea’s lines.

  • Tommy speech about finding Thea and “not letting her down again,” was really touching (would have sounded better coming from Oliver, but…)

  • The face Oliver made when throwing the chains was hilariously ridiculous.

  • “Thea is dead.” Thank you Diggle for remembering my precious girl, but I’m pretty sure Oliver didn’t forget. Oliver's acting awfully casual about going to place where his little  sister died.

  • “That is not what Thea would have wanted.” No, it is not.

  • “I know how devasting it must have been to lose Thea…” Once again Oliver seems to take the death of his sister so lightly. I just don’t like how this is turning out for my favorite siblings.

  • That fight scene ended kind of anticlimactically and way too easy.

  • And an UST moment for Lauliver… their fans must be thrilled.

  • “I can’t shake this feeling that our sister would still be alive if you had just been here,” Yes, she would have, and I liked the little lip tremble of Oliver’s when Tommy said that.

  • Aww, his goodbye with Moira… and what the hell just happened?

  • TLDR: No sign of Thea, though.

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"Al Sah-Him" Liveblog


  • Oliver looks tired, as if the last three weeks have taken their toll on him.

  • Nyssa and Laurel are kind of awesome together...and slightly gay-tastic.

  • That Lyla and Diggle took Thea into their family unit is so sweet. Gah!

  • “...Ollie’s gone.” The look on Thea’s face is one of the Broken-hearted. Also, I love that Lyla and Diggle looked at T in trying to assess her first as opposed to catering to Felicity’s woe-is-me bullshit.

  • “The mornings are the worst.” Oh, Thea. I can just imagine her waking up and forgetting for a moment that she’s lost him again. Then reality crashes down her.

  • “He wouldn’t want you blaming yourself,” while that is probably true, who is Felicity to speak for Oliver like that? Especially when the person she speaking to has known him for her whole life. The look on Thea’s face in response just emphasizes my point on this.

  • Every time Felicity speaks, I cringe. She’s such a whiny, know-it-all bitch. On the other hand, Laurel’s growing on me steadily.

  • Thea being a bad-ass chick. I love her. “Felicity, I cannot be handled right now.” Love that she’s a strong enough person to call Felicity out like that.

  • “Why would Ollie come back here?” The frequency with which Thea refers to him as ‘Ollie’ when everybody else refers to him as Oliver stands out to me as a testament to the close intimate nature of their relationship.

  • “Do you know where he is? Maybe I could just talk to him.“ // “I can get through to him.” - Yeah, I fully believe if anyone could, it would Thea.

  • So apparently, Laurel and Oliver have known each other since childhood. For some reason, I always imagined they might in the college era.

  • ...So then, technically, Oliver “gave up his soul” for Thea. There's something so utterly romantic about that.

  • Thea contacted Malcolm, even though, she hates him, for Oliver because she wants to protect him. Thea’s determination is so awe-inspiring.

  • “...and your brother knows that too.” Even Malcolm knows how highly Thea values Oliver’s esteem.

  • If they wanted to talk Oliver down, they should have brought Thea. They, as a group, were short-sighted and stupid.

  • Oliver was willing and able to withstand a battle with John, Felicity, Lyla, Laurel, and Nyssa, but not Thea. As soon as Thea showed up, he backed away. *squee* I just love the implication that he can face off with everyone else, but with Thea, he simply cannot.

  • “No one wants to believe that last than me.” - Um, yeah, Thea totally wants that more than you, John.

  • “He should have let me die.” [...] “That’s why I love him” — Thea’s clearly struggling with dark thoughts and yet Felicity still makes it about her.

  • Also, has anyone else noticed the frequency with which Thea refers to Oliver as “my brother” around Felicity? It’s like she has to say it to reminder herself why she can’t be with him herself and thus cannot object to the Oliver/Felicity relationship.

  • “I do too.” I know Thea meant platonically, but I can’t help wishing she meant something more.

  • Felicity touches Thea and Thea gets up to get away from her.

  • “Ollie” just sounds so wrong from Felicity’s mouth. Like, NO bitch!

  • Also, I feel like Felicity is once again trying to get Thea out of the picture by sending her to Roy so that when Oliver finally comes back, she won’t have competition.

  • Ra’s wants Oliver to WHAT? While everyone he loves is still there...NOPE. No.

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"The Fallen" Liveblog


  • Oliver’s face as Thea flat-lined! It’s as if he came untethered in that moment. Like his entire world just rearranged itself without her in it. Then how he fell back into the wall when her heartbeat finally sounded.

  • Why did Oliver call Felicity and John to the hospital, but not Laurel? I mean, she’s known her longer.

  • “The Thea you get back will not be the one you lost.”

  • “That we lost because of you.” – The fact that Malcom said as if Oliver was the only one who’d be losing Thea…I feel that just emphasizes the emotional distance Malcolm has toward his daughter.

  • There Felicity goes again, trying to talk Oliver out of saving Thea. It’s like she knows that Thea is more important to him and she’s trying to get the competition out of the way.

  • “Prefer it we didn’t do our usual please don’t go dance.” Translation: Oliver knows the Felicity’s playing games with him, the bitch.

  • Unlike Malcolm, Oliver cannot fathom losing Thea forever.

  • “No, I wanted to make you think you’ve grown a little as a person.” -- So now Felicity’s insulting him as he flies to save your sister and change his entire life.

  • Oliver carrying Thea up to the League’s headquarters by himself despite the fact that John or Malcolm could have assisted him with her.

  • Oliver bodily moving to protect Thea from the approaching League Members.

  • Thea’s ritual gown though and Oliver helping to lower her into the water. Then Thea jumping out and attacking Oliver, out of all the people within reach. Why him out of all her possible choices? Subliminal motivations, I would say.

  • What!?!? She remembers Malcolm is her dad but not that Oliver’s still alive?

  • “And she will recover!”

  • “And what is that worth?” -- God, Felicity is such a bitch!

  • I love how Felcity keeps trying to make this about her, but Oliver continues to think about Thea.

  • Ewww! Olicity sex scene! She totally took advantage of his grief! Seriously, who sees someone they care about so distressed and then has sex with them? Not only that, but then she fucking drugged him after and the audience is all supposed to just be like, ‘oh, that’s fine.’ Fuck no. She’s a horrible person and that’s all there is to it.

  • I’m honestly surprised Felicity didn’t suggest just leaving Thea behind with Ra’s the way she’s been acting.

  • At first, I was like: why is Thea hugging on Felicity like that? But then I realized she’s not. She was leaning on her because she had no other choice because she’s physically compromised.

  • Oliver “loves her all the more for it.” -- For drugging him? Hell no. Not only is that out of character for Oliver (as are most aspects when it comes to Olicity,) but it also send a terrible message to ARROW’s viewership.

  • Oliver and Thea's goodbye though. So touching and heartbreaking at the same time.

  • Love that Thea’s first substantial question is “Where’s Ollie?” He's always ger main priority.

  • “He traded his life for yours.” -- Like that’s going to lower her anxiety levels, Malcom. He’s a moron.

  • After Oliver gave up his life as he knows it, Malcolm has the balls to tell Thea that ‘at least he’s off the hook now.’ He’s also a terrible parent.

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"Broken Arrow" Liveblog


  • Stephen's gotta stop looking like he's gonna cry. It makes me want to cuddle him, which, you know, is impossible.

  • Bam! Laurel swoops in like badass bitch and halts everything! I still don't like her and Oliver, but she's growing on me as a character. Accusing her own father of fabricating a confession is not going to help their father/daughter dynamic any though.

  • "Oliver's sister's boyfriend," just the way he said that struck me as amusing.

  • "This city still needs you." [...] "It needs you more." Anyone else not entirely convinced Oliver and Roy are talking about the city? ;)

  • "But no one close to you has died." The ominous and I get a very bad feeling. After all Ra's could use Malcolm to do something. I don't want anyone to die...except Felicity but I doubt they'll kill her.

  • "Please tell it wasn't you who put him up to this," so there goes my theory that Thea asked him to do it.

  • Also in this scene, I like that Thea and Oliver are standing together. They look best side by side.

  • Boy, Lance is really on the war path.

  • "I told the guards I didn't want to see you." Oh my God, that scene made me want to cry. I don't even like Roy or Theroy but GAH!

  • Personally. I think Oliver's annoyed with Ray, not because he's with Felicity, but because he's just annoying.

  • That Roy jail fight was awesome!

  • Okay, first off I'm pretty sure it is both rude and illegal for the police to be tossing Thea's clothes off the second floor like that. I hope Thea's texting Oliver about this.

  • Thea vs. Lance! Look at our girl holding her own! I am so super proud of her!

  • "Does he even know why he's throwing his life away?" My Queencest brain extended that dialogue.

  • Really Quentin? Trying to use Roy to turn Thea against Oliver? That's low and so not gonna happen.

  • "Ollie!" Her voice sounded really weird to me there. I don't know why. I love he just opens his arms and she walks straight into them. It's like it's instinctual for him to hold her.

  • Woah. Oliver was dealing with the Roy thing until Thea told him what happened. Now he's getting in a physical altercation with Diggle! It's cause he looks out for Roy, I know, but you also cannot convince me that seeing Thea in tears had nothing to do with it.

  • "Before you lose everything." Oliver turns and looks at Thea.

  • "Maybe there is something more going on with you..." Yeah, he's not so secretly in love with his sister. What do you mean that's not canon?

  • "I know who you are." No, Felicity you do not actually. Not at all.

  • Oh no, Roy!

  • I love how the first word out of Oliver's mouth when he sees Lance with her in the apartment is "Thea?" Not “what are you doing here?” or “what do you want?”, but “Thea?”

  • Aw man, we don't get to see Oliver comfort Thea? I feel jipped!

  • Roy's not dead! Good but also poor Tholiver. They were so upset!

  • I'm glad Roy thought to let Thea in! I like all three of the goodbyes.

  • I love how defensive she is over Oliver!

  • OH MY FUCKING GOD! *sobs hysterically* They did not just kill Thea! No fucking way!

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"Public Enemy" Liveblog


  • You know what I just now noticed? In the intro part when he says: "to them, I'm Oliver Queen." is the clip of him hugging Thea after he told her. I greatly approve of and support this editing choice.

  • Damn! The arrow didn't even hit Felicity. That's mean on the part of the editors. I had hope, damn it!

  • This Shado twin storyline is a weak attempt at writing. Shame on the writers! Shame!

  • "I am the biggest idiot in the world for breaking up with you." And she's back, ladies and gentlemen! The poorly written in-a-relationship-with-Roy!Thea is back! Now on a character/relationship note, this line right here is a prime example of why I think Roy is emotional abusive towards Thea somehow. She just absolved him of all responsibility for their breakup and he is partially responsible. God, I'm really starting to hate the writers of this show.

  • "Why don't we? Roy?" I'm sorry I'm calling utter bullshit on that. Seriously, writers? Thea would NEVER run away while the threat of the League hangs over them and she definitely would not just abandon Oliver while he was in such danger. Nope. No. *shakes head*

  • At least Thea's look when Roy brought up Oliver was contrite, like she felt bad that he'd slipped her mind for a minute. Leave it to Willa to rectify the damage of the poor character writing as much as possible. I love Willa so much.

  • "You're here, so I'm great." Normally, I hate the Raylicity interactions, but okay, that line was kind of cute.

  • "And do you feel betrayed by that decision?" What are you, Oliver, a therapist? Also, the way he's standing in this scene with his hands behind his back like that, it makes him look powerful...and sexy, not gonna lie.

  • Using Sara against Nyssa was quick thinking...but also kind of mean in a way.

  • Why? Why is Thea not yet part of Team Arrow? She should be! He knows she can fight! Grr!

  • That building jump was amazing!

  • Nyssa protected Laurel again! I'm starting to ship it legit now.

  • Another "thank god you're not dead" reunion between Oliver and Thea. Yay!

  • "What are you talking about?" I love how Thea was the first one to fend off Oliver's apology...in a way that told him he was an idiot for apologizing in the first place. "What don't I know?" Thea's determination to be in the know is admirable. What I don't get is why Oliver didn't tell her in the first place.

  • "Tommy." Aw, Oliver used Tommy's name as his fake name!

  • Well, now Quentin knows. Damn. This gonna be bad. "Oliver, the Arrow, either way same guy." Yup. Bad. Damn.

  • The police bust through the door and what does Thea do first? Tell Oliver to run. Even though the police are also still after Roy too. At least her priorities are straight in high pressure situations.

  • Now the city knows. Shit. This just went from bad to worse.

  • "I don't even have a regular plan."  That's funny, but okay, all of Team Arrow shows up yet where is Thea? This a scene that she needs to be in. Her brother's being hunted! Where the hell else do the writers think she'd be? Honestly!

  • "Also, he's frozen Thea's assets." Well, at least Lance knows that Thea is his main support...even if the writers behind the whole thing seem to hate her character for some dumb ass reason.

  • Ow! Ray just I love you and Felicity didn't say it back. Ow!

  • Oliver turned himself in. What a self sacrificing, heart-of-gold-having, moron!

  • Yet again, Team Arrow relies around Oliver in jail and yet again, no Thea! WHY THE FUCK NOT?

  • Oliver in handcuffs. Kind of sexy. Also, his speech to them? Perfect.

  • "You have no idea what it's like to live like this. Looking for any kind of answer." She's right; he doesn't, but Thea would. Thea lived like that for five years.

  • Lance just hit Oliver! Not cool! Not cool!

  • "Wouldn't it haven better if you just died there?" NO! No, it would not! That's so mean!

  • Oliver is not a villain!

  • Also, part of me thinks maybe Thea put the idea to be the Arrow in Roy's mind.

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"Suicidal Tendencies" Liveblog


  • Thea’s dress, for the second that we glimpsed her, was very pretty...even if she did attend the wedding with the wrong date.

  • Laurel’s dress, while beautiful and looks fabulous on her, is not right for a wedding. Seriously, costume department!

  • What? Do they all have automatic Google Alerts on the Arrow? Diggle and Lyla left their own wedding reception for this Arrow cave chat? Either Lyla is an extremely evolved woman...or Diggle will be paying for this later in some backhanded sort of way. Also, what did they all do, abandon Thea at the wedding reception? Seriously, everyone that she knows left to deal with this, but her. When is she gonna join Team Arrow? I need her on the team, damn it.

  • “It’s called a honeymoon.” D’aww, sweet!Oliver makes my heart squeeze! Also, who’s watching baby Sara while Diggle and Lyla are on their honeymoon?

  • Mutilating poor innocent teddy bears for drug trade is just wrong.

  • Oliver yelled at Felicity. YAY!

  • “Ray built a supersuit? That’s kinda awesome...and reckless.” Ha, look everybody, Roy was funny!

  • Ray is...trying to blackmail Laurel? Also, Laurel’s advice was badass and spot on.

  • I hope that arrow kills Felicity.